MISSEDLINK

_________________________________________

 

• "Germany Parliament Committee of Inquiry - into the NSA - National Security Agency !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "witnesses William Binney - former technical Director - NSA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

• "William Edward Binney said - he had been the technical director !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "of the world analysis - and reporting - in the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

 

• "he had also been the chief of the technical advisory panel - to the foreign relations council - in the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

• "he had been aware of the technical capabilities - and the sharing with the partners - around the world !"

 

 

 

 

 

• "unfortunately the NSA went down a path - were it could be able !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "monitored the - entire population !"

 

 

 

 

 

• "not just foreigners - but internally in the USA !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "our democracy - must not be threatened !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it would affect every citizen - not just of the United States !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it would have implications - around the world !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "William Binney spent 37 years working for the NSA - both in the military !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and then as a civilian - for 32 years !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it was important to testify - what was really going on behind the scenes !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in the intelligence community - in the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it was something - that must not be hidden from the public - it needed openly discussed !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "because our constitution - must be protected !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "after 9/11 - they tried an approach - of bulk acquisition !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "information - was what they were after !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but individuals - have fundamental rights - under our constitution !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and everyone in the world - has rights to privacy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "the procedure way - of this path - was not democratic !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they tried to acquire knowledge - of their population - through these programs !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "William Binney quitted NSA - in 2001 - because of this procedure !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the data actually started - in mid-October 2001 !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "when he found it - it took him two and a half weeks - to leave the place !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "because he did not want to be associated - with these procedures !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "this was what he had worked against - the former Soviet Union - for many years !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he recognized it - immediately !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he could not be a party to that - that was why he left !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "William Binney had technical knowledge - of the capabilities - of these programs !"

 

 

 

 

• "from 1965 to 1970 he was in the army security agency - stationed in Turkey - looking at the Soviet Union !"

 

 

 

 

• "he had training in terms of military training - in traffic analysis - and analysis in general !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he started breaking different systems - the NSA noticed him and said - "we would like you to come to work"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so in 1970 - he started to work for the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he worked on internal codes - and crypt systems - that the Soviet Union had been using !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in general they looked for attributes - for introvert - that was 85 percent !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "if you were familiar with the Myers-Briggs aptitude testing - ISTJs - introverted - scientific - technical !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they also had administrative people - or some banking - or other attributes !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "some came in - to get clearances !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they sent the investigators out to investigate you - you took a polygraph - and you got clearances !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "then contractors - tried to hire you from the NSA - like Edward Snowden !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "contractors - offered more money !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "toward the end of the period of time he was in - they were having problems - getting people cleared !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so they started what they called a - fast track - where people got quickly cleared - and into working !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "this especially was true - with contractors !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but this of course caused - many problems - and challenges !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "when he started out as a desk analyst at the NSA - he looked at a specific set - in a geographic area !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he interpreted - what their intentions - and capabilities were !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in order to do that - he had to have a broader look !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "then William Binney started breaking things - on a larger scale !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and he created along with Dr. John Taggart - the SIGINT - automation research center !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "automated the SIGINT - digital data - process for the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he was looking at different problems - and tried to integrate them - into the whole picture !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in the analogue world - there were different sources of information !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "some of them have been published - like the Echelon program !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "or conventional collection sites - HF antennas - VHF - or LVHF antennas !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "then in the late 80s and 90s - there were fiber optic lines !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "fiber optic lines - took a bulk of the communications - because of the capacity !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "you had to figure out ways - to tap fiber optic lines - some of that has been documented by Mark Klein !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "with the NSA room - in the AT&T facility in San Francisco - a Y-connector - or a splitter !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "a splitter - had two fibers coming out - the normal route - and the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the optical line - the data - was duplicated !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "then you needed for the data - a sessionizer !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that went back through the entire network - and reconstituted - what was actually the data being sent !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there were commercially available devices - the Narus - and Verint devices !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he was familiar with the - Naris insight device !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "sessionized of fiber optic lines - at the rate of 10 gigabits per second !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "if you reduced it to information - from e-mail - for example !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "one device could produce the e-mails - of a hundred billion one thousand characters - a day !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they purchased - those devices !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "when William Binney filled out the form - SF-48 - the application for a position at the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there was a list of all your background - and your family - friends - addresses - and references !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "then the FBI investigated - and talked to people !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "asked them different questions about you - and looked at the organizations - you belonged to !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they tried an assessment - of what kind of person you were !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the polygraph was at the end - from that they assumed - assemble questions !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and asked general questions of - loyalty !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "William Binney was a technical director - equivalent of a 1.5-star general - or a GS-17 !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he looked at the technical issues - across the organization - and had 6.000 analysts !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "from 1997 to 2001 - he worked in the lab of the SIGINT - digital data - automation research center !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it was mainly about problems - the inner core was a small number of people - 16 in total !"

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he was a member of the - senior technical review board !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "the program - "Thin-Thread" - had two parts - part I was the back-end part !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "acquired information off the fiber lines - which was fundamentally the Internet !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that required the Narus device - sessionized data coming across the fiber optic lines !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that then produced information - to the analysis area - which was the specialty of William Binney !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he designed how to handle all that analysis - of all that data !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and managed that data - after the acquisition of it !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "one problem was - when you started collecting that amounts of data - from fiber optic lines !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "volume - became a really big problem !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "normally they used dictionary select type routines - which were Google type queries !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "when you did that - unless you used the right terms - but even with the right terms !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "you still got thousands - if not tens of thousands - of returns !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "how could you figure out - what was going on - in that data ?!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he was defining it for the back-end - how to solve that to make the volume !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "of information - a manageable problem for analysts !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "this was why he developed the targeted approach - of acquisition of data !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was a defining - of the zones of suspicion - around certain known guys !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he also had a whole set of things - that he was going to apply - automation techniques !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "would automatically analyze - all of the information - from the graphs - and from the data !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and figured out who were the new guys - that we should be watching - and targeting automatically !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the data taken in - was building a relationship - in a graph - a social network !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "a section of that graph - was a community - who you communicated !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "for example on your phones - and e-mails - that was your community !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "you could pull that community out - and then pull with it - all the data !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was used to build that relationship - over a long period of time !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "how you were interacting with your community - he prepared this profile - automated the analysis !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "automatically determining intentions - and capabilities of communities - intelligence !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but then they were asking - for a commercial environment !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "created algorithms to go into - large data sets !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "William Binney laid out the logic for those coders - had hired coders - contractors !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "coded the SIGINT automation research center - it was like a flow diagram - for a computer program !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "his point was that collecting - all the data - was a pointless activity !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he suggested that they would deploy systems - that would look through fiber optic rates - of data !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and pulled out - only that was relevant - and let everything else go by !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in other words - there would not have been buildings - like Bluffdale !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "stored all material - that was collected !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was a targeted approach - for analysis of data - and when they would pull in !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "US citizens - they would had a process - that would detect them immediately !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "after all from phone numbers - or IP addresses - it would be really pretty simple !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "to recognize - if you were a US citizen !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and that those attributes - would not be studied by anybody - in law enforcement - or in the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "this the team of William Binney had proposed - in 1999 - to the general counsel !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and they were taking the argument - to the DOJ !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "when they took that argument to the department of justice - and fourth amendment right lawyers !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they handed the proposal to them - that we be allowed to do this !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "as the counsel handed it to them - he said - "here was the proposal they have"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but they did not think - it was constitutional !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that would mean - that we should have thrown - that one out !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but no one - ever told him - to stop !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so he never - stopped !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the deputy director for operations - said - "continue"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so he said - "okay - he was continuing"  !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "after 9/11 - they scrapped even those - protections !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they got rid of the entire section of code - and they decided !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "not to do a focus detect - on the front-end !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they took in - everything - they saw !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there was bulk acquisition of information - that was open !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and there was no - privacy !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• ""Trailblazer" - was a program that they solicited - almost 4 billion dollars to do !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it was a program - that private companies wanted !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they wanted to do a development from scratch - so that they would have control of the development !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but when it came to the understanding - of bulkgraphing - of all of the data - they were collecting !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the bulk acquisition of information - the private companies had nothing - that could handle that !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and Trailblazer itself - was cancelled - in late 2005/early 2006 !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but what they did was they looked at the program - of "ThinThread"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the back part - the part that he was involved with - in terms of the graphing - and targeting !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they said - "this part of the program - could manage the acquisition - of all the data"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they did not turn off the switch - to delete - or ignore - material in the front-end !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they got rid of the privacy back - in the back-end - that would then manage all of this information !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in terms of graphing it - and building relationships - and indexing it - to a graph of relationships !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that program was the one - they used to start the - "Stellar Wind" program !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they simply took the software - right out of the back-end - of this "Thin-Thread"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and put it on another set of data - and that separated-up data into it !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "spying data - of the USA !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the programmers that he had worked on programming - that system !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "were the ones they had used - to set up the "ThinThread" program !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they were the only ones - who knew - how that program worked - how to get data into it !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was the reason - they came to him - afterwards !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was the move to - collecting information - of all !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and that was - where he was objecting !"

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "( and they had to build things - like Bluffdale - or an another 600.000-square foot facility ! )"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "they had this - control issue !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "which was - what was driving them !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they wanted - information !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and that was not - a democratic procedure !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they wanted to know - what the population was thinking !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they did not view themselves - at the same level !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "this of course needs - to be challenged !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and needs to be challenged - constitutionally !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in the USA - and in any country involved !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "we need to have ways - and means - of verifying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "what the intelligence agencies - are doing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "Nixon tried to use - similar kinds of things - and he was impeached for that !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but he had much less - possibilities !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there is a cautionary note here - for some public encryption - or systems that are publicly available !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "some of those have built-in backdoors - but for example not PGP - Pretty Good Privacy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and therefore it would be recognized - and automatically managed - by a software !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but if you create your own encryption system - and you do not make it public !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "then you are doing a good job - then it makes them work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "if you make it complicated enough - they will not be able to crack it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the general principle was - any data they collected - they kept - as long as they could !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they never had thrown away anything - unless they had to !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "these processes must not violate - civil rights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "not just of US citizens - but of everybody in the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was why I left there - because of that !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there were on the order of 8.200 - of fiber optic taps - in the continental US !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "their acquisition there was of - US citizens’ communications !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it was - everything !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "not just - metadata !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "if you wanted to capture the metadata - and build all the relationships - of everybody !"

 

 

 

 

• "you would do that in a quarter - of this room !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but when you wanted to collect - content !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "bulk data - then you would need large storage facilities !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the metadata was important - because metadata allowed you to build - relationships !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so you could use that metadata - as the keys - to pull data out - of the flow of information !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it was in - all languages !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there were cooperative efforts - they started with telecom companies - on the phone network !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "brought in the phone system - billing records - and things like that !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the philosophy after 9/11 - was "everything"  !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they had used it as the lever - of bulk acquisition of data !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and implemented the graphing in knowledge generation - of relationships of people !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "this was unconstitutional - and involved US citizens !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they tended to say - "if they had the capability - to do something"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they did - it !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "this was the philosophy - they were taking !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "without respect - to the law !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "encryption was certainly something they watched - to find out the things that were developing !"

 

 

 

 

• "the techniques they were using - and the design of systems - that they were trying to develop !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but people like journalists - have to be protected - around the world !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they had access points - for transoceanic cables - fiber optic lines !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that surfaced both on the East Coast - and the West Coast !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it was no coincidence - that some of the South American cables !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the fiber optic lines - run up to Miami - and then back to South America !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the communications - were visible in Miami !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "J. Edgar Hoover from the FBI - watched individuals - also in the Congress !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "information should give him - leverage - against them !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that is the reason - why information - must be treated - very carefully !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "not to influence people - not something you want them to do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "for example they reviewed thousands - of personal private e-mails - of generals Petraeus !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and Allen - to find something embarrassing about them - and to get rid of them !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was a review of data - to get leverage against them - to get them out !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was a process - that had many implications !"

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "when you were in a bureaucracy - you tended to use it someway !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "Angela Merkel's mobile was targeted - "they wanted a better understanding"  !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "what she - was thinking !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "what was the kinds of information - that she was talking about !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "or interested in - or concerned about !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "it could also be a leverage they could use - to influence them !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "in a direction they would like she - or anybody in parliament - to do !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "after 9/11 director Tenet of CIA - called general Hayden of NSA - and said !"

 

 

 

 

• "what could you do above - and beyond - what you were doing ?!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and within four days - Hayden brought his proposal back !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "of bulk acquisition - and graphing - in terms of an expansion of relationship - with corporations !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "first with the telecommunication companies - for phone calls - and then with the Internet service providers !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the telephone companies - managed the fiber optic lines !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they would provide the taps - the ability to tap that !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that proposal then went forward - to Cheney - this was pretty much documented !"

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "Cheney went to Bush - and they approved - the four of them - Bush - Cheney - Hayden - and Tenet !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "if you wanted to put a collection device - like a Narus - at a point in the fiber optic lines !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "you wanted to be able to see - communication simultaneously !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "you looked for three - or more points - Amsterdam - Stockholm - Copenhagen - Frankfurt !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there were 50.000 implants - in the network !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the data was processed - and put in data bases !"

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "at least - near realtime !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "William Binney always thought - getting the government to correct itself internally - was the best option !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "but when he went the proper round - intelligence committees - and the department of defense - and department of justice inspector general !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "all that did - was gain him notice - from the NSA !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they sent the FBI - to raid him !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so his proper way to proceed - or the options to expose problems internally - did not work !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they even tried to indict him - with false data !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they falsified evidence separate times - the only reason he was not in jail - was because he caught them at it !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so he had evidence of malicious prosecution - if they wanted to go to court !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he had that evidence - and so they dropped everything !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there was corruption involved - around the Trailblazer program !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "between private companies - and government employees !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "a relationship - where they were interested in feeding !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they were not interested - in solving problems !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "because if they solved the problem - they no longer had it - to request money !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "and that would affect the ability - of the next contract - or the follow-on contract !"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

question: - "are the documents from Edward Snowden - not manipulated ?!"

 

• "yes - they are original !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he looks at those - as best evidence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that are the evidence of these programs - those are all authentic documents !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "everything is right - the classification - all the kind of structure - and organization - you look at !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that was the kind of things - of them !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "the problem also was that contractors - worked for given companies - managed by private companies !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they could get information - inside information !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "there must not be - industrial espionage - without letting anybody know !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

• "in the intelligence community - they had been using words as a - word game !"

 

 

 

 

• "they would say a word - and it would mean something to you - but they would be using it in a different way !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so the point is - to get them - to list the terms !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that they are going to use - and their specific definitions !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "for a verification process - whatever NSA - CIA - or FBI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "or anyone in the intelligence community - would tell Congress - or either courts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "you have to have a way - to verify !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that what they are telling you - is the truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "maybe by setting up a separate technical group - that is responsible to all of Congress - and all of the courts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that has all the clearances necessary - to go into any intelligence community agency - sit at any position !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "looks at any data base - or any process - and reviews everything !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "they have got to verify - what they are saying - to the courts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "or to Congress - is true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "even Reggie Walton - the chief judge on the FISA Court - has admitted !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "he has a limited capacity - and even challenged anything - that NSA was telling !"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so you need to set up - a way or means !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "to verify - what you have been told !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "otherwise they could lie to you - or not tell you - the whole truth !"

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "so you need a mechanism - to make that happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "to be able to verify - what those intelligence agencies - are doing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

_________________________________________

• "that they are telling you - the truth - about what they are doing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

TRUTH - Wikipedia EN: LINK ¤ TRUTH

_________________________________________

 

• "truth - is being in accord with fact - and reality !!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

______________________________________________________________________________